The Bosque Boys

Waco, I'm sure if I was to meet you personally I would like. I like the way you think and I like the way you express yourself. But I completely disagree with your opening statement.

A home run? I beg to differ. On most teams he would have been benched, traded or released.

One moment he insisted that republicans come together with democrats to work on healthcare. The next moment he would turn and offer a partisan slap. He did this several times.

His speech failed in delivering any details of his plan. And he didn't unite Americans. He divided us further. And he labeled anyone that disagreed with him a liar. I wasn't surprised when Rep. Joe Wilson passionately fired off and called him a liar. I was saying the same thing in my office when listening to the speech. I glad somebody finally stood up and yelled. After all, wasn't it BO that brought Chicago politics to Washington. Its about time a conservative politician shove back. Dems afterwards said they were shocked. It wasn't long ago the same ones called Bush a liar and refused to apologize. Seriously, I feel the need to write Joe a check and include a note that says "go get'em."

Anything this president says I'm going to question. If he says it's Tuesday on a Tuesday. I'm still going to check my calendar. He has given me no reason to trust him on anything.

I've read through most of HR3200. And many of the things that he said are not in the bill are in the bill. Such as healthcare for illegals. Its in there. I hope it has been deleted. Personally, I would like to see about 1000 pages deleted.

I hope for his sake and the sake of the nation he is waking up and realizing that his healthcare plan is unsustainable. Most Americans don't want it and we can't afford if we did. He has had champagne dreams on a Budweiser budget. Today I read that the deficit is now at $1.38 trillion. We're broke and he still wants to spend. The real crisis is the economy and all he can do is try to convince us healthcare is the real problem.

I respect your points Waco, and on several I agree with you completely. But if this president is ready to rumble he most certainly better size up his competition better. The American people have taken to the streets and they're fighting mad.

I'll leave you a comment I saw earlier this week:

They gave us the compassion of the IRS. The efficiency of the Post Office. The effectiveness of Katrina. And now they want healthcare? -Frank Lutz

Steve,

I don't disagree with anything you said in terms of substance. Of course, the President was frustratingly inconsistent. Of course, the President was disingenuous. Of course, the President never even tried to address the grassroots rebellion going on in the heartland.

But it was a home run in that he got his mojo back. He was back in campaign form. He gave the kind of speech that made him president.

Will it be enough?

That is still to be determined. He at least gave the mainstream media some cover to start shilling for him once again.

Let's talk about the political reality:

The House can probably pass any bill. It will be close--but House leadership can probably brow-beat enough of the so-called Blue Dogs into line and win in a squeaker.

The Senate is a different story--but we are not out of the woods yet. There are several scenarios in which I can see a few Republicans putting some plan over the top.

The only part of the plan that I think is actually dead is the PUBLIC OPTION--regardless of what anybody says I think the Democrats are going to have to give up the PUBLIC OPTION.

But even with that element off the table, the Democrats are very likely to pass something quite similar to a version of Hillary Care circa 1994.

They will come back and get the rest some other day.

Will it break the Democratic Party? Hard to say. It might. But will anybody remember any of this the morning after the vote is counted?

Waco,

Again I like what you say. And yes, he had his mojo on. But his mojo is running thin with the American public.

His viewership was down by 39% from his last address.

If congress does bow down and grants the president his wish I believe they will face a fierce backlash from the public.

Also, it seems we are hearing stories of corruption almost daily. This week it was the undercover stories about ACORN. Last week, it was the fall of BO's czar Van Jones. In the coming weeks who knows what to expect. But they all seem to have a way of connecting to this president.

Today I learned of the John Adams Project. They are committed to capturing pictures of undercover CIA agents and turning them over to our guests at Gitmo. Where is the outrage of president? Its nowhere to be seen.

Sure he might get his healthcare bill. But one thing I learned a long time ago is you'd better be careful in what you ask for. Handing Taxpayers another trillion dollar bill for something they don't want will certainly backfire.

Is it just me, or do all of Obama's speeches sound the same? His delivery seems the same, no matter the speech. As does the form and stucture. On paper, GWB's speeches were better. As delivered and structured, Reagan's were much better.

Gardener:

I agree--but, once again, so what?

The conservative intelligentsia was on to Obama pretty early on. A small minority of us hoped that behind the empty rhetoric there was an incisiveness that would transcend the boilerplate gibberish.

But it is increasingly apparent that no such miracle is on the way.

Back to the so what?

Does any of that matter?

Does substance play a significant role in politics at this point?

Farmer, you are scaring me. Remember, I'm the one who is usually on the verge of cynacism.
Regarding Obama as a speaker--I think his declining viewer numbers for the televised speeches indicate not only overexposure, but also the reality that after a couple of speeches most people (lib or conservative or in between) find him boring.
Personally, I do not find him boring in a reassuring Eisenhower way, but boring in a disordered way--like listening to a someone whose personality does not allow him to realize he bores.

Also, regarding Obama as a communicator, consider his attempts at humor. He is the worst president at it in a long time. When he tries to be funny it just feels awkward to me (I had the same feeling with Nixon).

I am really put-out with the way things stand. I am also in the process of preparing a systematic theology for a modern conservatism--sort of.

I think it is time to go back to basics, start telling the truth, and accept the fact that we are going to lose elections for a while if we follow our guiding precepts.

However, at some point, we will be there as a party (or movement) of principle and integrity.

As long as there is a remnant...